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#6416530 Jul 19, 2012 at 04:23 PM
58 Posts
Very well stated Jet, As for me and I know my wife would follow my lead, I am very happy being in TCV and love the people who we see on a regular basis. I too like Jet am not really good at recruitment, but am willing to help as much as possible. My time on isnt what it used to be due to the fact that I started working again and have a baby on the way, but ill do what I can to help in the time I am on. I have been in many guilds on many different games and this "problem" seems to happen quite often. I hold no bad feelings for anyone who wishes to leave and wish them all the best. I am very happy with our "partnership" with Trincosce, they seem to be a cool bunch of people and we can join forces to get stuff done.
I am always on the notion that if something isnt working, you do what you can to make it better, not leave it for something else. So lets do what we can.......
"Thru the calmness of being does the Force flow freely."
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#6417466 Jul 19, 2012 at 08:30 PM
316 Posts
I just wanted to say that I'm super sorry that I'm never around. :(

The majority of the guild is East Coast and I get out of work at around 7:30-8 every day, which means I rarely see anyone. ._. I wish I could be more useful, and if I had time, I would get the RP gears going, but alas.

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#6452601 Jul 27, 2012 at 02:11 AM
Vanguard
395 Posts
Tonight is a sad night for me. I stopped by the guild website while at work. I find posts confirming what looks like the end of The Coruscant Vanguard. What a shame. I know most of you weren't there for the beginning... very few of us were to start with. Some of you may wonder what caused me to leave... it's simple. The guild was no longer what it once was.

TCV started out with a core group of people... launch day we were all excited to start talking in game while playing. We'd spent months (for some of us) getting to know each other prior to the game's launch. We'd devised interlinked characters and backgrounds. Once in game we started immediately with ingame RP events, even with it just being the handful of us. Our characters set their tone for each other. Aiden the strong heart of the guild, both IC'ly and OOC'ly. Mikael, the guild's champion and stalwart white knight. Khemiq, the one who knew everyone and what they did. Then me, The guild's seemingly loose cannon of a rich kid pissed off. There were a few others... Ehlina, Chat, Karnas, and some I don't remember. The guild had a preformed heart at the start of the game's life. We had lost some to the 'super server' idea... others never quite made it into the game that had joined pre-launch. But there was that core group of us that came in with a very focused approach to what we wanted playwise and a loose approach to RP.

Very quickly me and Mikael raced to 50 (him beating me by a day but I had the shorter time played by a couple of hours). The rest caught up in their own time. Karnas and I developed an IC friendship through the means of PvP'ing together and coming to the decision they should be experienced battle brothers. Ararius's willingness to break laws put him apart from the rest of the guild for the most part... those that looked past it were those he came to trust and rely on. Mikael became the first Republic to 60 Valor. And we were one of the few out and about RP guilds right from the get go. We had weekly events with strong attendance. We had comments from people catching us RP'ing around the galaxy saying how it was cool to find more then just Cantina RP to see while they were leveling.

Then one by one we started falling off. Mikael's son's birth pretty much killed his game time, which we all expected. Karnas got sent off to training. Khemiq kinda just slowly phased out. It came down to pretty much Aiden, Chat, and myself left from that strong launch group... and TCV wasn't quite what it had been. More and more drama oriented bar rp, less and less actual game oriented goals, less and less interaction as a whole unit and it had become small groups mostly rp'ing within themselves.

And then Aiden left. I put my support behind Jet because I had no personal desire to lead the guild and I knew that Aiden had been grooming Jet to take over if he ever did leave. Aiden's departure... killed my involvement with the game. He was the one that had talked me out of quitting just a couple weeks before. No offense to Jet, he is a great guy and capable leader... but the guild wasn't the same TCV as before and without Aiden, it's heart and soul, it had lost it's identity.

I tried coming back a few weeks ago. The one day I was back... didn't change anything. Almost no one was on... and those i did talk to pretty much let me know nothing had really changed other then a more active server population. Which to me means nothing if the guild can't be a home. Some would say to leave the guild... however, I started this game with the TCV on launch day (wave 2 of invites) and I am glad that my departure is having still been a member of it. Jet, I beg that when you do leave the game... that you do not disband TCV. One day, when SWTOR gets an armory, I would love to go back and see it's name and Ararius still there. I am deeply attached to the character I created and hate that I will never get to RP him to his grave. But atlas, great things seem to burn out fast.

I'm sorry to see that this is TCV's fate... but once the original cluster of a guild is gone... it's never quite the same. Well wishes to each of you, regardless of path. May the Force be with you all.

Ararius Valanteene
Coruscant Vanguard - August 2011 to August 2012 (when my sub finally runs out).


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#6454455 Jul 27, 2012 at 11:07 AM
112 Posts
Thank you, Ararius. That actually means alot.

"I pray the world, and Jerusalem, can accommodate such a rarity as a perfect knight."
-Tiberias, "Kingdom of Heaven"

"RETREAT!" "HELL!" "RETREAT!" "HELL!"
"Two Five."
-"Battle: Los Angeles"

"But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the Shepard."
-Jules, "Pulp Fiction"
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#6454489 Jul 27, 2012 at 11:13 AM
112 Posts
Also, if its' any consolation, Andul was talking about Ararius last night. His legacy still lives on.

And now, I'm going to go -not- cry a little . . .

"I pray the world, and Jerusalem, can accommodate such a rarity as a perfect knight."
-Tiberias, "Kingdom of Heaven"

"RETREAT!" "HELL!" "RETREAT!" "HELL!"
"Two Five."
-"Battle: Los Angeles"

"But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the Shepard."
-Jules, "Pulp Fiction"
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#6460347 Jul 28, 2012 at 03:16 PM · Edited over 5 years ago
316 Posts
Just putting in my feelings too.

I don't think there was anything Jet really could have done to save TCV. In my mind, he had two strong factors working against him:

1) When guilds get created, they often (but not always!) form around the personality of their guild leaders. It's a weird sort of subconscious thing.

Aiden was very much a people-person as well, so the effect was even stronger. He was the nexus that kept everything tied together. So when the 'nexus' of the guild was taken away and a brand new one that was very different was placed in, it obviously didn't feel the same. The guild kind of was set upon this path the moment Aiden's real life priorities took him away from the game.

If sometime in the future, in a different game, Jet creates his own brand new guild - it would probably be a smashing success. That guild would have formed around *his* personality. He would become the new nexus of his own network as opposed to trying to somehow work within the mold of another's.

2) YMMV, but I also want to add that for my part (and for a few other people as well) - the thing that killed my desire to keep playing wasn't anything related to the guild.

It was SWTOR itself.

Even if Aiden had stuck around and things were just the way they'd always been, I'd still probably have found a harder time staying active because for me, SWTOR is somtimes just an incredibly boring version of WoW in Space. The only thing that really kept me going as long as I have was you guys and the awesome RP we shared.

In the end though, it gets hard for me to justify a monthly subscription for something I'd only really use for RP. :/
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#6460782 Jul 28, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Vanguard
395 Posts
I appreciate the fact that you were speaking of Ararius more then you'll ever know Andul.

@Tiergan: I agree with your second point very much. As I mentioned, Aiden had only weeks before his own departure convinced me from canceling my own subscription due to lack of interests. SWTOR was a massive let down and I honestly can't justify spending money each month simply for RP purposes... it's the same reason I left Galaxies as much as I enjoyed the RP potential there. The game itself is lacking and I just can't stick with a game I can't enjoy. :(


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